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damats damats
Wed, Jun 16, 2010 22:06
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Amount of Weights?
I am confused & need help, as I keep getting different answers.
While doing stength training with cardio for weight loss. Do you want more weight with less reps or less weight with more reps? I am trying to lose weight & tone muscle. I do not want to bulk up.

blackbelt blackbelt
Thu, Jun 17, 2010 07:06
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Amount of weight
I'm not a trainer and maybe one will reply to your question but, the more muscle mass you have the more calories your body burns at rest (that's good!). Most people will not be able to "bulk up" unless they lift a huge amount of weight but we think that will happen and therefore lift too light. Your best option is to lift a weight that is heavy enough that by the time you get to about 12 reps, you are working very hard to make it a good quality rep. Then rest 30 seconds and go to the 2nd set of 12 stopping at 3 sets of 12. By the time you get to the third set, you might only be able to complete 8-10 good quality reps, that's OK. As it gets easier to complete, go up in weight making sure that it's always a challenge. That's the whole point, challenge your muscles! Also, switch body parts i.e. don't lift weights on the same muscle group two days in a row. A great book that spells it out, has sample workouts and shows pictures of each exercise is called "The body sculpting Bible for men/women" (2 different books). There are all different combinations to what I said above including doing two different exercises, one immediately after the other then resting 60 seconds etc. Always do your weights first then follow it up with cardio! Good luck.

cindy38 cindy38
Thu, Jun 17, 2010 13:06
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trainer advice
I am not a trainer but I have been working out with a persoanl trainer for over a year and she is right. You need muscle mass to burn calories and women rarely bulk up. I suggest doing 15 reps of a weight that becomes VERY difficult at 12. This way you are building muscle. Don't forget to up your weights and switch it up so your body does not get used to anything and always has to work,

DunnellonMomma DunnellonMomma
Dunnellon FL
Thu, Jun 17, 2010 15:06
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Hi Ya
Well, first, let's talk about the bulk up issue. I recently learned that it's not really prudent for women to think about this because women do not carry the hormone testosterone. Of course, some women can bulk up but that isn't the case for most women.

When I was training for Ms. Fitness America, I did high weighs and long reps. You want to "tire" the muscle group. You don't want to go too easy on it. You don't need to concern yourself about day --- some men do legs one day, arms another... You want to do main core muscles the same day - most likely, though.

So, in my results, I became very lean and defined. NOT BULKY. It's good to eat protein and focus on the natural foods - lettuce and salads (less dressing) etc... You can find information on this site.

Anyways, here's what I do, personally and it WORKS FOR ME.
1) Keep track of weights and reps each time you work out. You will want to SLOWLY increase this as you go on. You need to trick and teach your muscle. NOT stay stagnant.
Legs - Abuduction - weight 120 / reps 15 x 2 (date)
Did for ONE week
Moved to 130 same reps.

In your second set of reps, you want your legs to feel tight. You want to feel as though it's tough. NO, you don't HAVE to complete the full set. YOU want to FEEEEEEEL it. It's no point if you cannot feel it at all.

You are supposed to train them. Don't expect to get results if you don't work them. My LEGS are the best thing about my features. :)

2) Drink lot's of water. Hydration is a huge issue. You will want to do that each time you work out with weights (and otherwise).

3) Switch it up --- cross training.
I Like to do triceps and then quickly move to biceps. You want to do the same alternating muscle group. THAT is what makes the muscle toned, long, lean and SEXXXXY. So, you do triceps @ 35 / ONE SET then move to biceps - # 45 / ONCE and then move back to triceps. It helps to make the work out more interesting giving the muscle group a small rest and then on to another one --- keep those muscles hot while they workout. DOn't REST too long!

4) Do weights --- cardio 15 min then back to weights.

5) SAUNA. It's a good water releaser and believe it or not a good book makes it relaxing AND YOU BURN CALORIES WHILE YOU SIT IN THERE! It's a great way to clean out the toxins in your body.

Ok, this is about it for now. I need to clean the house and I use 5 pound leg weights while I do it. Not burning nothin sitting here at the computer. :)

DunnellonMomma DunnellonMomma
Dunnellon FL
Thu, Jun 17, 2010 15:06
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*MOST IMPORTANT
TECHNIQUE TECHNIQUE TECHNIQUE TECHNIQUE TECHNIQUE

You must be upright. You must stick to the proper tecnique. I see people in the gym all of the time overdoing it and NOT doing a thing to help them succeed because they are hunched over, doing too high of weights, or simply poor posture. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

You must sit with your back upright/ you must breathe through each rep/ YOU must stretch...

Regardless of what anyone says, you must have this in order to see results. If you have good posture and can only do ONE SET, then it doesn't matter - that is the point. If you have poor posture and can lift like HULK HOGAN, it's worthless and you might as well call a Dr. because you are going to hurt yourself!

Just a reminder. If you go to a good gym, you would have support walking around helping those that have poor technique.

:)

damats damats
Thu, Jun 17, 2010 20:06
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Thank You
Thank you Blackbelt, Cindy38 & DunnellonMomma for the great advice. I am already doing the upper body one day, lower body the next, along with cardio. I am seeing results but wanted reassurance as to how much weights I s/b pushing. I was on the right track afterall. I do 15 reps & my muscles to get tired after 12 but I keep pushing. Thank you again for all your great advice. This is my first time on this sight & it is very interesting.

lelogosdemoi lelogosdemoi
Charlotte NC
Fri, Jun 18, 2010 00:06
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Keep it simple
You can't tone until you've got significant muscle that you want to then change the shape of. Don't worry about bulking up - bulking is something that is hard to do, takes a lot of work, and almost never happens unintentionally.

Generally, I think it's a waste of time to do 15 reps. You can't do heavy enough weight at that high of reps to really challenge muscles enough to grow. Growing muscles helps burn fat, is healthy, and makes you look defined and scuplted - I'm not talking about adding bulk (which by the way usually means adding muscle, fat, and retaining more water in the muscles to make them look bigger). Hi-rep workouts ARE useful for towards the end of a several week or month series when you are building up to a special event or date that you want to peak for - they will help shed body fat for a short period of time, but working out that way all the time will not work to keep shedding fat, and it doesn't work if you haven't first put in the time building bigger stronger muscles. Plus, 15-rep sets take a long time, and most people don't really want to spend more time working out for less results.

Generally, there is no reason to go over 12 reps other than the reasons above. It's pretty important to vary the number of reps you are doing as well as to keep increasing weight. You can also get into varying tempo - but that's a big more advanced. If you are just starting a new series of exercises, a good plan would be to start with 2-3 sets of 12 reps and do that the first week - then the 2nd week move to 2-3 sets of 8 reps at a higher weight. Then 3rd week 2-3 sets of 10 reps at same or higher weight. Then 4th week 2-3 sets of 10 reps at higher weight. After 4 weeks it's time to change up your exercises and challenge your body with something new - start over with 12 reps...etc. Write down what you're going to do - go the gym with a plan, and record with weights and reps you actually did so you can make sure to do more the next time you do that workout.

The human body is designed to adapt - you must change up the demand you put on it in order to get it to change. There's a saying that's fitting here...something about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results = definition of madness. Same goes for cardio. You can't do the same cardio for 30 mins every day and expect your body to change. You've got to find new and different ways to up the anti and force your body to adapt to new challenges.

It's not hard, but it does require thought and planning. If you're a beginner it can be enormously helpful to follow a plan....from a book or have a trainer write one up for you...or use one that's on fitclick! After you've been at it for a while you'll eventually get comfortable (and confident) writing your own plans.

LotsaLbs2Lose LotsaLbs2Lose
NC
Sat, Apr 6, 2013 21:04
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I gotta get back into this.
Used to work out 7 days a week...alternating days with cardio/strength. I have fallen way off the workout wagon, and need to get serious again.

Great info here!

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